Hi Terry,
If you don't want to deal with it then why are you here debating it? Also, why do you persist in taking the moral high ground, since it only displays your own pride and arrogance. You remind me of Yuri Gagarin, the Russian cosmonaut who first orbited the earth. When he got back he exclaimed that he had 'seen no god, therefore there is no god'(or something along those lines)! I also don't believe that, "I'm so tortured over what I have been through, God is so evil, wah wah wah" line you use all the time. I posted apologetics: you disagree; big deal; who cares?
Rex
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Very good apologetics for honest seekers
by Shining One inare you tired of the arrogant assertions of the elite ex-jw clique here?
here is some powerful ammunition to "demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of god"!
http://www.carm.org/evidence.htm .
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An Unbeliever's Guide to Believing the Bible
by thinker injws believe the bible is god's word and that every word in it comes from god.
it's a waste of time to try to disprove the bible based on science or any source outside the bible, because they just don't stand up to something someone believes came from god himself.
so i've decided to use all that i've learned from jws about the bible to show them that they can't trust everything in the bible.
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Your non-use of any hermeneutical method results in nonsense, LOL. You also need a new moniker. I suggest, 'speculator'. You would do well in journalism though, some rag like the Weekly World News.
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Trinity- True or False
by defd ini know from going door to door that people are generally divided as to who god is.
what are your thoughts?
is jesus almighty god?
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Joe,
You seem to have a huge problem even discssing the book of John:
1) The book was written for the purpose of debunking the gnostics, who spiritualized Christ's risen body (as the WTS does) AND the Jews, specifically the Ebionite sect.
2) Translations and commentaries have gotten better with the massive amount of N.T. manuscript evidence. The respected and knowledgable scholars agree on the fact that John was in fact proclaiming the deity of Jesus.
3) Alternative word meanings being applied to shed doubt on the passages of N.T. showing the deity of Christ are ludicrous in light of the overwhelming evidence. YOU create contradiction is scripture with your dogmatic assertions AND you promote polytheism, just like your former teachers, the WBTS.
Why does the Watchtower have to change scripture in over 300 places in order to teach this heresy?
Why do they have to quote commentators and greek language translators out of context?
Why do they have to LIE, Joe, if they are teaching the 'truth'?
Ex-JW who continue to insist that the WBTS is correct about their heretical teachings miss the whole point of leaving the BORG.
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Very good apologetics for honest seekers
by Shining One inare you tired of the arrogant assertions of the elite ex-jw clique here?
here is some powerful ammunition to "demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of god"!
http://www.carm.org/evidence.htm .
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For Cog:
The reality of Christ in His dual nature:
John 1.14 (MSG) The Word became flesh and blood, and moved into the neighborhood. We saw the glory with our own eyes, the one-of-a-kind glory, like Father, like Son, Generous inside and out, true from start to finish.
John 8.13-19 (MSG) 12Jesus once again addressed them: "I am the world's Light. No one who follows me stumbles around in the darkness. I provide plenty of light to live in."
13The Pharisees objected, "All we have is your word on this. We need more than this to go on."
14Jesus replied, "You're right that you only have my word. But you can depend on it being true. I know where I've come from and where I go next. You don't know where I'm from or where I'm headed. 15You decide according to what you can see and touch. I don't make judgments like that. 16But even if I did, my judgment would be true because I wouldn't make it out of the narrowness of my experience but in the largeness of the One who sent me, the Father. 17That fulfills the conditions set down in God's Law: that you can count on the testimony of two witnesses. 18And that is what you have: You have my word and you have the word of the Father who sent me."
19They said, "Where is this so-called Father of yours?"
Jesus said, "You're looking right at me and you don't see me. How do you expect to see the Father? If you knew me, you would at the same time know the Father."
John 8.52-58 (MSG) 52At this point the Jews said, "Now we know you're crazy. Abraham died. The prophets died. And you show up saying, "If you practice what I'm telling you, you'll never have to face death, not even a taste.' 53Are you greater than Abraham, who died? And the prophets died! Who do you think you are!"
54Jesus said, "If I turned the spotlight on myself, it wouldn't amount to anything. But my Father, the same One you say is your Father, put me here at this time and place of splendor. 55You haven't recognized him in this. But I have. If I, in false modesty, said I didn't know what was going on, I would be as much of a liar as you are. But I do know, and I am doing what he says. 56Abraham--your "father'--with jubilant faith looked down the corridors of history and saw my day coming. He saw it and cheered."
57The Jews said, "You're not even fifty years old--and Abraham saw you?"
58"Believe me," said Jesus, "I am who I am long before Abraham was anything."
That last one seals it: in context and not a pretext, Jesus did in fact proclaim Himself to be equal to God. The resurrection proves that statement and upon that 'rock' is the church built: Jesus is the "conerstone" and no amount of distraction using alternative word studies has any valid point. He did use the verses in Exodus 3.14 (MSG):
14God said to Moses, "I-AM-WHO-I-AM. Tell the People of Israel, "I-AM sent me to you.'"
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DEFINING EVIL in a meaningful way
by Terry inwe always choose the __lesser__of the two evils.. .
we demand of truth that it be consistent and will not accept a grey area of inconsistency.
black and white.
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>>>HOW MANY TIMES do I have to repeat this? There IS Evil. It comes from GOOD people. It comes from you and me when we relax our hold on reality and choose to opt out. Each of us is responsible for the juggling act that keeps our world sane and safe. When just one of us is distracted or unfocused we drop the ball and the chain reaction begins.
By jove, Terry, you've got it! THAT is our sin nature: the deranged state we all have within us that is only held in check by.........What one of us have never had murder in our hearts? Oswald Chambers said this, "...there is something dark in each one of us that laughs at every noble thought and idea..."
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Very good apologetics for honest seekers
by Shining One inare you tired of the arrogant assertions of the elite ex-jw clique here?
here is some powerful ammunition to "demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of god"!
http://www.carm.org/evidence.htm .
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>>Cog said this: D)you said "If Christianity is true, you are eternally damned; if it is not true you are eventually just dead." --this is just a narrow-minded, twisted interpretation of Pascal's Wager.
Nothing narrow minded about it. Your argument is not with me, it is with Jesus: "I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father excepr through me; I am the bread of life; I am the light of the world; I am the resurrection and the life; You have seen me, you have seen the Father; before Abraham was born, I am; if you do not believe I am (He) you will die in your sins."
A true Christian cannot believe any other way and be honest with the faith. Those who accept the idea that, "there are many ways to heaven" are obviously not Christians by the definition Himself! Now do you see that the claims of Jesus of Nazareth lead directly to the comments made by C.S. Lewis?
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Comparing the 'one, true churches'...
by Shining One inhere is a interesting article on churches that claim they are the one, true church: .
http://www.theholdemans.com/compare.htm .
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Which church do I belong to? I'll give you a few hints: Luke 10; Isaiah 14; John 9; Acts 9 and I do appreciate God's sense of humor and irony.
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Why 'defining evil' is fruitless
by Shining One ini think that terry's answer to his own question about 'defining evil' is incorrect.
you do not even need to define evil when you have an absolute truth to go by.
you can go through a lot of speculation in order to define evil.
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Hi Daystar,
I like the sense of irony my handle signifies!
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Why 'defining evil' is fruitless
by Shining One ini think that terry's answer to his own question about 'defining evil' is incorrect.
you do not even need to define evil when you have an absolute truth to go by.
you can go through a lot of speculation in order to define evil.
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Sonnyboy,
If you bothered to look up the statistics that I presented you would see that I am right. Are you just like the rest of the ant-God bunch here? Are you so dogmatic in belief of the assertions of agnostics and pagans that you will not even look at both sides of the issue?
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Evolutionary establishment tactics
by hooberus inwednesday evenings (august 24th) fox news program "the oreilly factor" featured an interview life after "intelligent design" with dr. richard sternberg, editor, of the peer-reviewed journal "proceedings of the biological society of washington.
" dr. sternberg's home page discusses the recriminations he faced by certain members of the evolutionary establishment after publishing an arcticle by another person advocating the possibilty of intelligent design in the peer reviewed journal.
http://www.rsternberg.net/
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You just can't let go of the fear that you have made a big mistake in your beliefs....again, can you Alan? Dogmatic displays are quite common amongst the believers in naturalism. Your pet theory is on the rocks and will be discarded in the rubbish heap of mistaken human reasoning in a few years hence.
Rex